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so that is a big gift of flexibility to boehner. and i think it's an acceptance of the reality that rates will have to go up at least a little. >> as for the president, we done know much. but my sense is that they know the issues, they have been through this before. that the atmosphere is their right and now it's a question of their skill at negotiators. because there are delicate balance here. the republicans want to give, probably a little on the tax rate. the president has to sort of lure them over and say okay, we'll give new on entitlements. and you have to do this little dance here. and do it gently. and with a little gift, a little carrot, a little stick and if they can do it confidently i think there is a pretty good chance just atmospherically that we will get a fiscal deal before we go on. >> you see the dance. >> i don't see it quite the same way david does. i think the republicans are facing reality. everything is going against them. it wasn't simply the election return, re-election of the president. but today the associ
so that is a big gift of flexibility to boehner. and i think it's an acceptance of the reality that rates will have to go up at least a little. >> as for the president, we done know much. but my sense is that they know the issues, they have been through this before. that the atmosphere is their right and now it's a question of their skill at negotiators. because there are delicate balance here. the republicans want to give, probably a little on the tax rate. the president has to sort of...
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is it's much harder to define a win for john boehner. you know, is a win, you know, holding absolutely fast? is a win saying, you know, great, we were the party that managed to cut social security for the middle class? that's going to be pretty hard to go into another election with. >> you know, do you agree with that assessment that it's easier for the president, cynthia, because he basically wins on taxes. he's the robin hood, if you will, of this issue. he's looking out for the regular people against the people on the top. on the other side he's saying, you republicans, you can be the scrooges this winter. i have to go along with it. but you're forcing me to do it, so you're the bad guys. so i think i agree with chrystia. this is basically a setup if there is a deal for the president. >> well, i do think that the president would certainly get a big win with the middle class tax cut piece of this which i think is going to pass. whether it passes by the first of the year is another matter, but i think he'll get that piece of it. but i t
is it's much harder to define a win for john boehner. you know, is a win, you know, holding absolutely fast? is a win saying, you know, great, we were the party that managed to cut social security for the middle class? that's going to be pretty hard to go into another election with. >> you know, do you agree with that assessment that it's easier for the president, cynthia, because he basically wins on taxes. he's the robin hood, if you will, of this issue. he's looking out for the regular...
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boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said? a lot of things are possible. that may not sound like much where you're from, but here in washington, it sounds suspiciously like code for we're making progress. more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what we want to do is protect the middle class. so it's not about the rate. it's about the money. >> so is 37 the magic number in this fiscal cliff debate? "outfront," two men who know taxes very well. douglas holtz-ekin, president of the american action forum and robert reich from the university of california
boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said? a lot of things are possible....
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they are open to it in 2011 in the boehner/obama talks. they are open to it now. what's weird about this policy is it's always presented as the height of fiscal responsibility, even though it's kind of fiscally irresponsible, which brings us to the challenge. why raising the age does not save you very much money and is probably a bad policy idea in under two minutes. do we have the clock? let's do it. the argument for cutting 65 and 67 years old out of medicare in a deficit talk is simple. it saves money. the keizer family foundation estimates that when it's all said and done, the government could save $5.7 billion in the first year of that plan. but those 65 and 66-year-olds they don't disappear. they are still going to be here and they are even going to get sick sometimes, which means the savings we'd see by kicking them off medicare rolls will pop back up in the economy. it's not pure savings, it's a cost shift. first and foremost, you're going to see increased costs for seniors who will have to find another health insurer since medicare is huge and uses its ba
they are open to it in 2011 in the boehner/obama talks. they are open to it now. what's weird about this policy is it's always presented as the height of fiscal responsibility, even though it's kind of fiscally irresponsible, which brings us to the challenge. why raising the age does not save you very much money and is probably a bad policy idea in under two minutes. do we have the clock? let's do it. the argument for cutting 65 and 67 years old out of medicare in a deficit talk is simple. it...
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but boehner has been making tough moves. when it comes down to it he's going to agree to something with the president and it is not going to be able to pass his own conference. do you have any sense of what you think he's able to do and not do at this point? >> we come back again to the entitlement question. it's going to be easier for the caucus to swallow some tax rate increase if they have something to show for it. and the irony here, on a whole variety of issue, the democrats should be in favor of certain kinds of entitlement reforms. it's not actually that big of a give. on social security, as an example, democrats have won for the time being on privatization being completely off the table. there's a strong argument for trying to lock that in now as opposed to waiting and having that potentially come back. in addition, one of the big concerns here is doing too much fiscal austerity too soon. the more you did in the form of social security which can be phased in gradually over time, the lighter the load imposed in 2013.
but boehner has been making tough moves. when it comes down to it he's going to agree to something with the president and it is not going to be able to pass his own conference. do you have any sense of what you think he's able to do and not do at this point? >> we come back again to the entitlement question. it's going to be easier for the caucus to swallow some tax rate increase if they have something to show for it. and the irony here, on a whole variety of issue, the democrats should...
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. >>> and president obama and house speaker john boehner are talking again. but that is about the only thing close to progress in efforts to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama used his weekly address insisting he is ready to make the tough decisions on spending cuts. >> i am willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the one trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that is one principle i wouldn't compromise on. >> speaker john boehner has a different view. he says the president needs to abandon what he called his "my way or the highway approach," in his words. if the president does that a lot of things are possible. >>> syrian rebels are battling army units around the capital. activists say 26 people were killed in the damascus subur
. >>> and president obama and house speaker john boehner are talking again. but that is about the only thing close to progress in efforts to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama used his weekly address insisting he is ready to make the tough decisions on spending cuts. >> i am willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the one trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things...
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. >> outfront next, john boehner says the sprt slow walking to the edge of the fiscal cliff. but the house speaker did give us one flash of hope if you listen to his words very carefully. the u.s. is updating its military plans against syria as new intelligence shows assad's regime is loading sarin gas into bombs. and president obama's pot problem. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm tom foreman in for erin burnett. outfront tonight, the magic number after a whole week of harsh words here in washington and threats to, did house speaker john boehner hint ever so slightly at a compromise today that could finally edge us away from the dreaded fiscal cliff? it comes down to tax rates. this is a huge sticking point in the stalled negotiations between the president and mr. boehner. obama says the top rate on household income above $250,000 should rise from 35% to 39.6%. boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there
. >> outfront next, john boehner says the sprt slow walking to the edge of the fiscal cliff. but the house speaker did give us one flash of hope if you listen to his words very carefully. the u.s. is updating its military plans against syria as new intelligence shows assad's regime is loading sarin gas into bombs. and president obama's pot problem. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm tom foreman in for erin burnett. outfront tonight, the magic number after a whole week of...
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couple days later in an interview he said, i'll wash john boehner's car and walk mitch mcconnell's dog to get a deal done. at this point, does it seem like empty promises? >> we don't know yet. certainly the type of negotiation would you expect is not happening. both sides have put out deals that were rejected from the other side. so we don't know where this is going, perhaps speaker boehner and the president have a secret deal they will put out in the last minute. >> gregg: the president repeatedly told campaign audiences that we have to combine spending cuts with any revenue. then he comes out with his plan and actually proposes tens of billions in new stimulus and net increase in spending. as consequence, are there folks on the hill that are convinced this is evidence that she not interested in finding a two-party solution? >> not only that. you have the republican plan that they put out on the table which basically based oner skin bowls suggestion. he was the chief of o staff to president clinton. so it's not just a right wing proposition it was a balanced proposition coming from a
couple days later in an interview he said, i'll wash john boehner's car and walk mitch mcconnell's dog to get a deal done. at this point, does it seem like empty promises? >> we don't know yet. certainly the type of negotiation would you expect is not happening. both sides have put out deals that were rejected from the other side. so we don't know where this is going, perhaps speaker boehner and the president have a secret deal they will put out in the last minute. >> gregg: the...
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. >> both are waiting to talk to president obama and house speaker boehner. here on capital here hill boehner says he is still waiting on the white house to respond to the latest proposal. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. to >> republicans are offering to extend tax breaks for all americans, close tax loopholes and cut nearly $1.5 trillion in spending. >> i came out the day after election to put revenues on the tame to take a step toward the president to try to resolve this. ,,,,,, ,,,,,, >>> you made it. it is weekend time, and i can vouch for both weather and traffic. weather thumbs up. traffic, thumb's down. here is a live look outside. we have mainly clear skies and mainly congested roads. beautiful weather, though. also in the south bay we're looking good. we are cooling down quickly. many of you will be in the upper 30s by tomorrow morning. concord you will be one of those spots down to 51. san jose, 56 degrees. ground clutter being picked up by our radar. there was no rainfall for 400 miles from san francisco. the
. >> both are waiting to talk to president obama and house speaker boehner. here on capital here hill boehner says he is still waiting on the white house to respond to the latest proposal. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. to >> republicans are offering to extend tax breaks for all americans, close tax loopholes and cut nearly $1.5 trillion in spending. >> i came out the day after election to put revenues on the tame to take a step...
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now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came in and out. no one saw her. we thought reading the tea leaves maybe there would be some movement. there was some movement. the president is playing golf. haven't seen hide nor hair of john boehner. >> mike viqueira, thank you, good sir. for more insight into where all of this is headed and whether there could be a breakthrough, i'd like to bring in david jackson, white house reporter for "usa today," and the politics writer for "roll call." appreciate your time. david, what's your sense right now? how far apart are the two sides? >> i think they're closer than a lot of people think because as mike just mentioned the dispute the size of the tax increase on the wealthy. both sides have said they want to negotiate what that rate may be. as far as the republicans are concerned, they want more commitment from the white house for spending cuts particula
now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came in and out. no one saw her. we thought reading the tea leaves maybe there would be some movement. there was some movement. the president is playing golf. haven't seen hide nor hair of john boehner. >> mike viqueira, thank you, good sir. for more insight into where all of this is headed and whether...
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speaker of the house john boehner is waiting to hear a counter offer from president obama since the republican plan was delivered on monday. >> reports indicate the president adopted a strategy to slow walk our economy to the edge othe fiscal cliff. -- edge of the fiscal cliff. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what we know about the latest person to claim a huge power ball jackpot. >> the weather is looking nice. the warmest day of the weekend and when shower chances >>> parents of two students are complaining the school isn't doing enough to protect the children from bullying at cooper elementary school. one parent said her daughter is being tormented. her daughter wrot
speaker of the house john boehner is waiting to hear a counter offer from president obama since the republican plan was delivered on monday. >> reports indicate the president adopted a strategy to slow walk our economy to the edge othe fiscal cliff. -- edge of the fiscal cliff. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens...
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speaker of the house john boehner is waiting to hear a counter offer from president obama since the republican plan was delivered on monday. >> reports indicate the president adopted a strategy to slow walk our economy to the edge othe fiscal cliff. -- edge of the fiscal cliff. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what we know about the latest person to claim a huge power ball jackpot. >> the weather is looking nice. the warmest day of the weekend and when shower chances return in the five-day forecast. >> parents complain their daughters are being bullied. we will tell you what is happening at a middle school. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u
speaker of the house john boehner is waiting to hear a counter offer from president obama since the republican plan was delivered on monday. >> reports indicate the president adopted a strategy to slow walk our economy to the edge othe fiscal cliff. -- edge of the fiscal cliff. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens...
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a tradition that began with president calvin coolidge and house speaker john boehner joined the lighting of the capitol christmas treat. this year's christmas tree is from the colorado river white forest. we will show both of those ceremonies right here on c-span. up next, the transportation secretary on the high-speed rail program. more than $10 billion has been appropriated to provide greater access to high-speed rail. this hearing to examine the management of the program, our second panel, former member of this panel, distinguished secretary of transportation who we have had a chance to work with. we appreciate his being here and on the anniversary of his birth. welcome. you are recognized. >> let me begin by congratulating you. a job well done. when i came here with the chair and i heard all of dimon's lectures,--- jim's what you have been able to accomplish as chair of the committee is extraordinary. it is a good bill. an faa bill. it is a good bill. we cannot do the work we do without the relationship of this committee and your chairmanship over the last time that we have been toge
a tradition that began with president calvin coolidge and house speaker john boehner joined the lighting of the capitol christmas treat. this year's christmas tree is from the colorado river white forest. we will show both of those ceremonies right here on c-span. up next, the transportation secretary on the high-speed rail program. more than $10 billion has been appropriated to provide greater access to high-speed rail. this hearing to examine the management of the program, our second panel,...
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that people are talking about now, specifically very important people like president obama and speaker boehner, is the tax code and these programs that we sometimes call entitlements, medicare, medicaid and social security. those are the things that are on the table at the moment, not defense. unless the bargain fails, unless the two sides cannot get together and then the thing that will happen, and it will happen quickly, are drastic cuts in defense and domestic spending and an automatic increase in taxes. that is what must be avoided. just because the economy couldn't take it at this stage. we've had relatively slow growth in the economy, and though it seems to be picking up and the last jobs report was quite favorable, having a crash austerity program right now, that's what the fiscal cliff is, would be a big mistake. so the two sides have to get together on this grand bargain. >> well, we certainly hope they do. alice rivlin, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >>> switching gears now. what is the future for the pop star psy? he may have the most popular video in the history of youtube
that people are talking about now, specifically very important people like president obama and speaker boehner, is the tax code and these programs that we sometimes call entitlements, medicare, medicaid and social security. those are the things that are on the table at the moment, not defense. unless the bargain fails, unless the two sides cannot get together and then the thing that will happen, and it will happen quickly, are drastic cuts in defense and domestic spending and an automatic...